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		<title>Mark Shuttleworth part two: Developers, DevOps &amp; the Cloud</title>
		<link>http://bartongeorge.net/2012/01/13/mark-shuttleworth-part-2-developers-devops-the-cloud/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barton George</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned in my last entry, Mark Shuttleworth of Ubuntu fame stopped by Dell this morning on his way back from CES.  Between meetings Mark and I did a couple of quick videos.  Here is the second of the two.  Whereas the first focused on the client, this one focuses on the Cloud and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=bartongeorge.net&amp;blog=4695609&amp;post=6564&amp;subd=barton808&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned in my <a href="http://bartongeorge.net/2012/01/13/mark-shuttleworth-part-one-ubuntutv/" target="_blank">last entry</a>, Mark Shuttleworth of Ubuntu fame stopped by Dell this morning on his way back from CES.  Between meetings Mark and I did a couple of quick videos.  Here is the second of the two.  Whereas the first focused on the client, this one focuses on the Cloud and the back-end.</p>
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<p><strong>Some of the ground Mark covers</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The cloud, Ubuntu and <a href="http://openstack.org/" target="_blank">OpenStack</a> involvement</li>
<li>The developer story: connecting the dots between app work on the client and testing and then deployment on the other end.</li>
<li>The world of DevOps and how <a href="https://juju.ubuntu.com/" target="_blank">JuJu</a> fits in</li>
<li>Apple&#8217;s iOS as a developer platform and where Linux might have the edge going forward</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Extra-credit reading</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://bartongeorge.net/2012/01/13/mark-shuttleworth-part-one-ubuntutv/">Mark Shuttleworth part one: UbuntuTV</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Hadoop World: Ubuntu, Hadoop and Juju" href="http://bartongeorge.net/2011/11/14/hadoop-world-ubuntu-hadoop-and-juju/" rel="bookmark">Hadoop World: Ubuntu, Hadoop and Juju</a></li>
<li><a href="http://dev2ops.org/blog/2010/2/22/what-is-devops.html">What is DevOps?</a></li>
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		<title>Hadoop World: Ubuntu, Hadoop and Juju</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barton George</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m always interested in what&#8217;s happening at Canonical and with Ubuntu.  Last week at Hadoop World I ran into a couple of folks from the company (coincidentally both named Mark but neither Mr. Shuttleworth).  Mark Mims from the server team was willing to chat so I grabbed some time with him to learn about what he [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=bartongeorge.net&amp;blog=4695609&amp;post=6373&amp;subd=barton808&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always interested in what&#8217;s happening at Canonical and with Ubuntu.  Last week at <a href="http://www.hadoopworld.com/" target="_blank">Hadoop World</a> I ran into a couple of folks from the company (coincidentally both named Mark but neither <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth" target="_blank">Mr. Shuttleworth</a>).  <a href="http://markmims.com/" target="_blank">Mark Mims</a> from the server team was willing to chat so I grabbed some time with him to learn about what he was doing at Hadoop World and what in the heck is this &#8220;charming&#8221; <a href="https://juju.ubuntu.com/" target="_blank">Juju</a>?</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://bartongeorge.net/2011/11/14/hadoop-world-ubuntu-hadoop-and-juju/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/3QGDQ2RTLMU/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Some of the ground Mark covers</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Making the next version of Ubuntu server better for Hadoop and big data</li>
<li>(0:34) What are &#8220;<a href="https://juju.ubuntu.com/Charms" target="_blank">charms</a>&#8221; and what do they have to do with service orchestration</li>
<li>(2:05) <a href="https://juju.ubuntu.com/CharmSchool" target="_blank">Charm school</a> and learning to write Juju charms</li>
<li>(2:54)  Where does &#8220;<a href="http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/08/formal-introduction-to-ubuntu-orchestra.html" target="_blank">Orchestra</a>&#8221; fit in and how can it be used to spin up OpenStack</li>
<li>(3:40) What&#8217;s next for Juju</li>
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<p><strong>But wait, there&#8217;s more!</strong></p>
<p>Stay tuned for more interviews from last week&#8217;s Hadoop world.  On tap are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Todd Papaioannou from Battery Ventures</li>
<li>John Gray of Facebook</li>
<li>Erik Swan of Splunk</li>
<li>Nosh Petigara of 10gen/MongoDB.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Extra-credit reading</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Ubuntu cloud update — OpenStack, Eucalyptus, Ensemble &amp; Orchestra" href="http://bartongeorge.net/2011/06/07/ubuntu-update-re-openstack-eucalyptus-ensemble-orchestra/" rel="bookmark">Ubuntu Juju Delivers Cloud Server Magic</a></li>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Ubuntu cloud update — OpenStack, Eucalyptus, Ensemble &amp; Orchestra" href="http://bartongeorge.net/2011/06/07/ubuntu-update-re-openstack-eucalyptus-ensemble-orchestra/" rel="bookmark">Ubuntu cloud update — OpenStack, Eucalyptus, Ensemble &amp; Orchestra</a></li>
<li><a href="http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/08/hadoop-cluster-with-ubuntu-server-and-ensemble/" target="_blank">Hadoop cluster with Ubuntu server and Ensemble</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Pau for now..</p>
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		<title>DCS&#8217;s Chief Geek takes us on a tour of his mini Home Lab</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barton George</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dell&#8217;s Data Center Solutions (DCS) group has some pretty colorful folks.  One of the more interesting members is Jimmy Pike, the man IDG New&#8217;s James Niccolai refered to as the &#8220;Willy Wonka of servers.&#8221;  Jimmy, the self-proclaimed &#8220;chief geek&#8221; of the DCS team is the consummate tinkerer whether that involves constructing a data center in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=bartongeorge.net&amp;blog=4695609&amp;post=4671&amp;subd=barton808&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell&#8217;s Data Center Solutions (DCS) group has some pretty colorful folks.  One of the more interesting members is Jimmy Pike, the man IDG New&#8217;s James Niccolai <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/198540/willy_wonka_and_the_dell_factory.html">refered to</a> as the &#8220;Willy Wonka of servers.&#8221;  Jimmy, the self-proclaimed &#8220;chief geek&#8221; of the DCS team is the consummate tinkerer whether that involves constructing a <a href="http://gigaom.com/2009/10/14/exclusive-dell-shows-off-a-data-center-in-a-briefcase/">data center in a brief case</a> or thinking of new ways of driving down data center power consumption by leveraging alternative forms energy.</p>
<p>Last Spring I visited Jimmy&#8217;s home to check out what he was working on in his &#8220;free time.&#8221;  Here&#8217;s what I saw (he keeps telling me he&#8217;s got much cooler stuff since I shot this so I may have to do a &#8220;geekquel&#8221;)</p>
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<p><strong>Some of the things Jimmy show us:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>The low-power chips he&#8217;s playing with</li>
<li>His experimentation with user interfaces and superman glasses</li>
<li>His mini rack of servers</li>
<li>The various forms of desktop virtualization and OS&#8217;s he uses</li>
<li>Laying out and designing boards by mail</li>
<li>His micro recording studio</li>
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<p><strong>Extra-Credit reading</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Permanent Link to Back to the Future with Light Weight Servers" rel="bookmark" href="http://bartongeorge.net/2010/09/10/back-to-the-future-with-light-weight-servers/">Jimmy Pike: Back to the Future with Light Weight Servers</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/198540/willy_wonka_and_the_dell_factory.html">Willy Wonka and the Dell Factory</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/27/data_center_in_a_briefcase/">The Register –  Dell chief stuffs data center into suitcase</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Pau for now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>RightScale Part 2: Why the cloud? Apple Fanboys and Server Suffrage</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tuesday I listened in on the RighScale webinar: How to Build Scalable Websites in the Cloud.  This is part two of my thoughts and notes from the event.  (Note: it doesn&#8217;t look like it&#8217;s been posted yet but it should be available here soon). As I discussed last time, RightScale acts as a management platform [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=bartongeorge.net&amp;blog=4695609&amp;post=1849&amp;subd=barton808&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<dt>Tuesday I listened in on the RighScale webinar: How to Build Scalable Websites in the Cloud.  This is part two of my thoughts and notes from the event.  (Note: it doesn&#8217;t look like it&#8217;s been posted yet but it should be available <a href="http://www.rightscale.com/info_center/webinars.php">here soon</a>).</dt>
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<div id="attachment_1815" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 435px"><a href="http://barton808.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/rs_what-it-sits-ontop-of.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-1815" title="RS_What.it.sits.ontop.of" src="http://barton808.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/rs_what-it-sits-ontop-of.png?w=450" alt="The clouds providers that Right Scale works with."   /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The clouds providers that Right Scale works with.</p></div>
<p>As I discussed <a href="http://bartongeorge.net/2009/06/17/rightscale-part-1-mickos-joins-and-control-moves-up-the-stack/">last time</a>, RightScale acts as a management platform between cloud providers and Apps.</p>
<p><strong>Which Cloud Providers do they work with?</strong></p>
<p>If you double click on the IAAS bit in the <a href="http://bartongeorge.net/2009/06/17/rightscale-part-1-mickos-joins-and-control-moves-up-the-stack/">yesterday&#8217;s slide</a> you get something like the above.  Right Scale works on top of Amazon, coming soon to Rackspace&#8217;s Slicehost, Sun/Oracle&#8217;s cloud), Eucalyptus theEC2-compatible open source alternative that allows you to set up &#8220;private clouds&#8221; (BTW as anyone who attended Austin Cloud camp knows I&#8217;m using &#8220;private cloud&#8221; under duress, Gordon Haff does a good job <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13556_3-10150841-61.html">explaining</a> my heartburn) and VMWare.</p>
<p><strong>Linux more robust than Windows</strong></p>
<p>When asked about OS&#8217;s supported the answer was Windows as well as Ubuntu and CentOS.  Their CEO did admit that currently Windows support is not as robust as Linux.  They actually began with CentOS and according to one of their team have recently begun supporting Ubuntu more fully.   When I asked about other Linux flavors, Debian, SuSE etc. they said that there were &#8220;licensing issues&#8221; standing in the way.  I should have asked about OpenSolaris <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p><strong>Why do you look to the clouds?</strong></p>
<p>During the webinar they polled the 200 odd attendees: &#8220;what&#8217;s driving you to the cloud?&#8221;  The results (as you&#8217;ll notice, you were allowed to vote for more than one):</p>
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<li>80% Scalability</li>
<li>73% Cost Savings</li>
<li>59% On Demand access</li>
<li>28% Back-up and recovery</li>
<li>06% Other</li>
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<p>Not surprisingly Scalability came in number 1.  As if to underscore the point they brought out everbody&#8217;s favorite case study of exploding demand, <a href="http://bartongeorge.net/2009/03/25/animoto-the-poster-child-for-aws-ec2/">Animoto</a>.  Thankfully they had another example of uneven demand, iFixit (see below).  As an aside, one example I&#8217;d like to see charted is the attendee who mentioned that their agency is responsible for posting election results and were &#8220;not prepared for the interest worldwide, for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)">Proposition 8</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was interesting to see that cost savings came in a close second, its always hard to measure particularly over the long haul but the perceived cost benefit is definitely strong in most folks mind.</p>
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<p><strong>Right Scale fighting for Server voting rights</strong></p>
<p>And in conclusion&#8230;I&#8217;m always intrigued with the way English language morphs and evolves so I thought it was really interesting how the word &#8220;vote&#8221; is being used in the cloud (or at least by RightScale).  Basically they use a &#8220;voting process&#8221; when scaling.  Here&#8217;s how one of their team explained it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Once a machine hits the scale up threshold  it places a vote to scale up.  When enough machines vote to scale up i.e. 51% if that that is what the decision threshold is set at, then new servers are provisioned and configured.  The same goes for scaling down.</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if this usage is new or a throw back from mainframes or from some other industry but I like it.</p>
<p>Pau for now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Talking to Canonical&#8217;s KVM Kid &#8212; Dustin Kirkland</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[At Austin Cloud Camp on Saturday I ran into Ubuntu linux developer and Canonical employee, Dustin Kirkland.  Dustin is on the server developer team at Canonical and, as he explains it, focuses on various aspects of virtualization, the plumbing layer below cloud computing.  I grabbed Dustin for a few minutes and chatted with him about [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=bartongeorge.net&amp;blog=4695609&amp;post=1677&amp;subd=barton808&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At <a href="http://www.cloudcamp.com/?page_id=477">Austin Cloud Camp</a> on Saturday I ran into <a href="http://http://www.ubuntu.com/">Ubuntu</a> linux developer and Canonical employee, <a href="http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/">Dustin Kirkland</a>.  Dustin is on the server developer team at Canonical and, as he explains it, focuses on various aspects of virtualization, the plumbing layer below cloud computing.  I grabbed Dustin for a few minutes and chatted with him about <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/20/ubuntu_9_04_released/" target="_blank">last week&#8217;s release</a> and what he&#8217;s been working on.</p>
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://bartongeorge.net/2009/04/28/talking-to-canonicals-kvm-kid-dustin-kirkland/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/k2E_1anve6w/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span>
<p><strong>Some of the topics Dustin Tackles:</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine">KVM</a>, Canonical&#8217;s hypervisor of choice</li>
<li>Ubuntu&#8217;s next release and its focus on <a href="http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/" target="_blank">Eucalyptus</a> to enable companies to set-up their own EC2 compatible &#8220;private clouds&#8221; based on Ubuntu servers.</li>
<li>What Dustin likes most about cloud computing (hint: think green)</li>
<li>What he likes most about working at Canonical</li>
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<p><strong>Update</strong>: And on a related note &#8212; <a href="http://gigaom.com/2009/04/29/eucalyptus-goes-commercial-with-55m-funding-round/">Eucalyptus goes commercial with $5.5M funding round</a></p>
<p>Pau for now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Mark Shuttleworth dicusses the Cloud and Ubuntu</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last month Mark Shuttleworth, founder of Ubuntu Linux, CEO of Cannonical Ltd and First African in Space, announced that Ubuntu was going to be making a big push into cloud computing with their release slated for October.  This will add to early cloud support that&#8217;s debuting in next month&#8217;s release, Ubuntu 9.04.  (BTW, For a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=bartongeorge.net&amp;blog=4695609&amp;post=1429&amp;subd=barton808&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month Mark Shuttleworth, founder of Ubuntu Linux, CEO of <a href="http://www.canonical.com/">Cannonical</a> Ltd and <a href="http://www.africaninspace.com/">First African in Space,</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html">announced</a> that Ubuntu was going to be making a big push into cloud computing with their release slated for October.  This will add to early cloud support that&#8217;s debuting in <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta">next month&#8217;s release</a>, Ubuntu 9.04.  (BTW, For a good backgrounder on Mark and Ubuntu, check out <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/business/11ubuntu.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=1">Ashlee Vance&#8217;s story</a> in the New York Times from January).</p>
<p>I  was interested to get some more details so I reached out to Mark to find out his master Cloud plan, his thoughts on Cloud Computing today and where he thought it was going.  This is what he had to say:</p>
<p><strong>My interview with Mark</strong> (9:51)  <a href="http://barton808.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/01-shuttleworth_music.mp3">Listen (Mp3)</a> <a href="http://barton808.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/shuttleworth_music.ogg">Listen (ogg)</a></p>
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<em>Mark and myself at the Ubuntu Developer <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Boston">Summit in Boston</a> at the end of &#8217;07 (Mark&#8217;s the one without the &#8220;Barton&#8221; name tag.)</em></p>
<p><strong>Some of the topics Mark Tackles:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Ubuntu has picked two anchor points for its cloud strategy: Amazon EC2 and <a href="http://www.ucsb.edu/">UCSB</a>&#8216;s (go Gauchos!) Eucalyptus.  <a href="http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/">Eucalyptus</a> is for those looking to create &#8220;private clouds&#8221; on their own and on the Amazon side they are making it easy for users to plug into EC2 as well as offering folks the ability to run Ubuntu-based machines on their cloud.</li>
<li>Why they went with EC2 and Eucalyptus.  On the Eucalyptus side it has to with it being Java-based, which meshes nicely with the work Ubuntu did with Sun to get the <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/barton808/entry/free_java_in_ubuntu_8">Java stack &#8220;straightened out&#8221;</a> on Ubuntu for  app servers.</li>
<li>The constraints that EC2 imposes actually make it more interesting by providing discipline, much in the same way that http applied the discipline of being completely connectionless.</li>
<li>We haven&#8217;t yet seen the &#8220;definitive cloud&#8221; in  the way that Google came along and captured the spirit (and revenues) of the web.  It will still be 5 -10 years before the cloud computing is nailed.</li>
<li>Portability in the Cloud is key if we want to avoid gross lock-in issues.  People are trying to tackle this in a variety of ways but it makes sense to look at the way http came to dominance.</li>
<li>Any truth to the rumor that Google is planning on using Ubuntu as a Netbook OS? (listen how Mark deftly responds <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.sun.com/barton808/entry/talking_to_mark_shuttleworth_in">Last time we spoke</a>, back in August, Mark said he was looking at profitability in 18 months to two years, is he still on track?</li>
</ul>
<p>Pau for now&#8230;</p>
<p><em><strong>Update:</strong> Here is the Register <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/shuttleworth_cloud_standards/">article</a> based on the above podcast.<br />
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